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Neil Ferguson interview: China changed what was possible

The Professor has given an extraordinary interview to The Times

https://unherd.com/thepost/neil-ferguson-interview-china-changed-what-was-possible/

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From the article...

It’s a communist one party state, we said. We couldn’t get away with it in Europe, we thought… and then Italy did it. And we realised we could.

- PROFESSOR NEIL FERGUSON, THE TIMES

He almost seems at pains to emphasise the Chinese derivation of the lockdown concept, returning to it later in the interview:

“These days, lockdown feels inevitable. It was, he reminds me, anything but. “If China had not done it,” he says, “the year would have been very different.””

To those people who, still now, object to lockdowns on civil liberties principles, this will be a chilling reminder of the centrality of the authoritarian Chinese model in influencing global policy in this historic year.

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Yes - But remember the Chinese didn't do it alone.

I can't identify when the Chinese developed their ideas - but we can see provenance in different documents.

1980's French economist Jaques Attali talked about vaccinating the masses to death through bioterrorism using a virus pandemic for population reduction

2000 - Bill Gates sets up his foundation

2005 - Epoch Times published 'The secret speech of General Chi Haotian' - which was allegedly a translation of a speech that took place in 2000 - where the general outline a bioweapons attack on the western countries.... https://archive.ph/R3glY - it's been 'fact checked' but as explosive as it is it doesn't circulate big tech block it. An Indian media company wrote a report on it saying they thought it was genuine..

2006 - the doctor that cured small pox came out with a paper in 2006 that denied all the fringe lunatics that were discussing lockdowns, social distancing etc...- so the discussion was around back and I've read that George Bush liked the lunatics ideas - I suspect Gates was behind it

2010 Rockefeller foundation document that outlined the Lockstep Scenario - outlining lockdowns facemasks and praising China for its authoritarianism.

Bill Gates pandemic planning sponsorship which culminated in the last round of Event 201 in December 2019 - countless times that they discussed it...and these pandemic 'war games' were done in partnership with the CDC - I found a comment on the net saying Gates had been practicing lockdowns with China for some years but haven't researched it so have no links to anything.

Event 201 produced 7 recommendations circulated globally via WHO - which included censorship - which the WHO set up by Feb 2020 - they are censoring us all.

Xi Jinping followed the Event 201 plan - which became his lockdowns

The WHO joint mission to China reported on Xi's response and in their report end of Feb they detailed all the tyranny and said that it worked -cases were falling in China then-which is how they claimed lockdowns work. almost every single tyranny is there.

Then came a media and internet lockdown campaign.

then came Italy.

Neil Ferguson and the IHME in America who reproduced his models for America

Boris Johnson "you have to stay at home."

And like ducks lined up in a row they fell one by one.

A long convoluted process. A lot of global cooperation to lockdown the world

I am going with the terrorism angle.

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Ivan, Ferguson et al’s Report 9 was influential on the Covid-19 response in Australia.

See my friend and colleague Emma McArthur’s letter on this, challenging the Doherty modelling that put Australia into lockdown/restrictions:

Is Australia being held to ransom thanks to ‘scientific fiction’ by the Doherty Institute? 02/09/2021

https://humanityattheprecipice.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/jodie-mcvernon-is-australia-being-held-to-ransom-thanks-to-e28098scientific-fiction-by-the-doherty-institute-2-09-2021-1.pdf

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Do you know the significance of the date 3.8.21? When Prof Vernon made that statement about vaxxing everyone. It was the day that the Op Covid Shield National Covid Vaccine Plan - one of the foulest documents I have ever waded through. Or maybe it is because it is personal, I am an Aussie too. This document was published when there was no Covid crisis in Australia. And it is an extremely detailed plan to vaccinate everyone with Pfizer. And I mean everyone. It is in my estimation extremely evil, and evidence of a biological attack on Australians, because these are experimental drugs. It shows the plan was coordinated between the federal and state governments, and they had it all covered - influencers, narratives, censorship-and making sure they didn't miss a single Australian no matter how remote they were.

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/08/op-covid-shield-national-covid-vaccine-campaign-plan.pdf

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Also see Emma McArthur’s website: https://humanityattheprecipice.com/

See for example Emma’s email to then prime minister Scott Morrison in July 2021:

Why did the Australian Prime Minister abandon the pandemic plan?

https://humanityattheprecipice.files.wordpress.com/2021/07/letterscottmorrison16-07-2021_v2-1.pdf

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He abandoned it because he is a traitor. For no other reason. A patriot would not abandon hundreds of years of western science and medicine to follow the diktats of the leader of the Chinese Communist Party, especially with no proof, no evidence beyond the word of the WHO. It was prepared in advance and the PM knew. He is a puppet. The hardest thing for us to wrap our heads around is the truth of simple statements like this. That people we trusted and relied on could be so evil, so treacherous and attack us so badly. But that is exactly what has happened and is still happening. The traitors are the enemies within. And it is only when you start thinking of C19 as a hybrid war run by the CCP-World Economic Forum, and their puppets, against humanity and all nations, that it starts to make sense.

Demanding answers as your friend so rightfully did, falls on deaf ears, because they are traitors and they are not listening-they are too busy with deception, distortion, and disinformation.

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Ivan, if you’re Australian and proactive on this subject, you might be interested to read my emails on the Covid debacle, seeking accountability. See my website: https://vaccinationispolitical.net/. Click on the various tabs for access to the emails.

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p.s. 'vaccination is political' - in my mind, and we see it with Covid-19, vaccination has become a weapon of mass destruction. And a way of robbing the treasury

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Elizabeth, you're a gem, thanks for that link. A quick glance tells me we are on the same page.

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I haven’t actually read the Op Covid Shield National Covid Vaccine Plan, will get into it.

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Thanks for that link. :)

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p.p.s. Hi again Elizabeth, I just checked out your Substack profile and who you read, and I am honoured to be amongst such distinguished company in your reading list.

Thank you.

Ivan M. Paton

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Keep up the good work Ivan 😉

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What do you think about Neil Ferguson and co at Imperial College London, who got the ball rolling with 'suppression' of 'the virus', aka restrictions/lockdowns..."until a vaccine becomes available", see Report 9: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/covid-19/report-9-impact-of-npis-on-covid-19/

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Hi Elizabeth - thanks for all the likes! Neil Ferguson is one of the insiders and useful idiots that was part of the process of getting the world into lockdown. He infamously said many months later "We didn't think we'd get away with it, but then we saw Italy lockdown."

What most of us see is what happened at home.

But the truth is by the time Neil Ferguson started trotting out his faked numbers, we were well and truly on our way into lockdown as their was an army of people pushing us there.

It 100% started in China, but they were working with western partners in the G20 and other nations - the G20 is the group that is important because the other countries didn't have the power to lock down the world - But by locking down the west the others fell like dominoes.

Michael P. Senger just released a book 'Snake Oil: How Xi Jinping shut down the world' - have you seen it. He also has a Substack page and you'll find some good articles there - particularly about the Italian lockdown that was another clearly faked show by the communist leaders in charge of the country at the time with help from the CCP.

Smoke and mirrors.

Dr. David Martin - who heads the team that did the work to reverse the mask mandate in the USA - has just taken a legal action against scientists in the USA alleging that they colluded with Canadian scientists and the Canadian government saying they created the SARS-CoV-2 virus and spike protein - and he has identified it all with the paper trail and patents - And they conspired to create bioweapons - and so he is now saying it is a case of international and domestic terrorism. You can find his work on www.prosecutenow.com.

I have an amendment to the Xi Jinping Covid policy tracking - while doing that this week I have found 2 documents from the Chinese one to the WHO and one to the world that said by June 2020 the Chinese doctors knew how to cure Covid19 at every stage of the disease and that what worked best was early treatment and they were using repurposed drugs - And when they treated people with early symptoms 90% were cured fast and not hospitalized - 90%%%%%

The WHO knew. Xi Jinping knew and was silent in every speech he gave in 2020 - G7, G20 - all he did was focus on his policy playbook.

Their silence was deliberate as it was and is a hybrid bioterrorism war.

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